Tuesday, 25 October 2011

Tips and tricks to rev up Satria Neo (Part2)

This will be the last part for performance topic, most of the Satria Neo owners are not satisfied with the power output, it is just lack of power even the stock engine is 110hp. After some times, Satria Neo with performance engine slowly appears - the most common and "user friendly" engines for Proton cars are 4G92 MIVEC and 4G93T GSR Turbo. Unfortunately there is a restriction for local car where we cannot upgrade to 2.0L engine, so considering a 4G63T engine is illegal.

4G92 MIVEC
For our Neo you have to get the "reverse" version which is the MD version. This is a 1.6L N/A engine, with Variable Valve Timing technlogy which is similiar to VTEC engine. Due to high demand, the price for 4G92 halfcut is very high - RM 8000 - RM 9000 depends on the condition and mileage. The installation is straight forward - you are not required to change engine mounting.


Specs for 4G92 MIVEC
Capacity: 1597cc
Fuel System: (Mitsubishi) multi-point fuel injection
Valve train: dohc 16v with MIVEC
Compression Ratio: 11:1
Bore: 81.0
Stroke: 77.5
Maximum Output: 172HP at 7500rpm
Maximum Torque: 167Nm at 7000 rpm

4G93T GSR Turbo
This engine is for those who like turbo and the blow off sound. This is a 1.8L engine with turbo, and the torque of this engine is surperb. As usual, due to the high demand, this half cut is ranging from RM 8000 - RM 9000. Plug and play with our Satria Neo.



Specs for 4G93T:
Total Displacement: 1834cc
Mitsubishi electronic with port fuel injection (MPFI)
Turbocharger: Mitsubishi IHI TD04L-13G-5
Compression Ratio: 8.5:1
Bore: 81.0mm
Stroke: 89.0mm
Maximum Power: 190HP At 6,000rpm
Maximum Torque: 250Nm At 3,750rpm

4G63T
I have seen some Satria Neo having this monster engine, even it is illegal - if you get caught :D
This will be the ultimate engine for Satria Neo by looking at the power and torque. If you are interested, you may get the halfcut for Evolution series 5 onwards. Due to the restriction, the price is around RM 6000 - RM 8000.



Specs for 4G63T
Displacement: 1997 cc
Fuel System: ECI-MULTI
Bore: 85mm
Stroke: 88 mm
Maximum Power/Torque from base model
276 hp at 6500rpm and 373Nm at 3000rpm

Why they are all Mitsubishi engines? This is because of the history of Proton, the Proton wira series is actually a rebadge from Mitsubishi Lancer back to 90s and almost all Mitsubishi parts can be used for our National car, until Proton GEN2 where Proton started to design their own model. Till now, Mitsubishi engine is still a hot choice.

There are some other engines for your consideration also, for example the Toyota Silver top / Black top 20 valves 1.6L engine, or even Honda B series engine.

Tips and tricks to rev up Satria Neo

We discussed about power and peformance from previous issue, which involved intake and exhaust system and they are very initial modification you can do for your Satria Neo. This time we will go for more aggressive mod where we talk about modify engine..

The other good modification you can do with your Satria Neo for performance are:

Lightened Crank Pully (LCP) - RM 300 - RM 500
You can get Mythelogy or ZerOne LCP for your Satria Neo, it has proven to improve low end torque for our Campro engine, and I have 1 with my Satria Neo. I have used it for more than a year and I'm still very statisfied with the result. For your information, our stock engine is 110hp, but it will lost power when it goes all the way from engine to wheel. Imagine your crank pully is 1.2kg down!


Adjustable Cam Pully (ACP) - RM 450
I will suggest you go for Work Engineering ACP where their ACP is finely produce, other brands I heard is Aerospeed ACP. The ACP is actually to adjust the valve timing so we can have the torque coming earlier for different purpose. For example Campro engine will start performing at 4000rpm, if you think it is too high then you can adjust it to 3000rpm.


Highcam - RM 2000 onwards
This will be the good mod for your engine because highier degree cam will enable your valve lift go highier for a certain duration for more air and fuel coming into your engine, so it means more power. Usually high degree cam will pair with Adjustable cam pully (ACP) for best result. You can get Matspeed high cam or powerzone high cam.


Piggyback ECU - RM 2000 onwards
Due to Satria Neo Siemens VDO ECU is untouchable, the normal piggyback will not work for our cars. This include the famous econoical AFC Neo and E-Manage blue - they won't work for our car. The only tested and proven piggyback is Dastek Unichip which can increase at least 10-15hp to our Campro engine.

With all the above modificaiton, I believe our Satria Neo can go minumum 130hp on wheel, depending on the tuning part.

If you are still not happy with the power increased, you have to go for force induction or engine change ;)

Proton Satria Neo R3 Turbo Concept

A beauty with power within...

My previous post is here only to provide information about proton exorcisms get 1.6-liter turbo. According to managing director of Proton, Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Tahir , the power must be produced by the 1.6-liter turbocharged engine powers comparable aspirations to normal "2.0-liter displacement. Not sure that the CPS is the engine of the Exora now obtained or not is with the turbo system.

In addition, the Proton Satria Neo also get a turbo engine and the new one is the most highly anticipated by lovers of high-performance cars, manufactured especially fans of Proton cars. As we all know, Proton Satria Neo CPS was by the model Satria Neo CPS facelift before spraying, but the system remains among the best turbo and increase the performance of the local sports car like Neo at a level higher.

With a 1.6-liter turbo with either the CPS or not, Proton Satria Neo is a legend in the local automotive scene. Can’t wait  for the Satria Neo  turbo in 2011 later.
Proton Satria Neo R3 Concept.38
The R3 Satria Neo

Your Neo lacks power? Use force induction!

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If you are not satisfied with the power of your Neo, use force induction. There are 2 types of force induction for Campro engine right now - Bolt on Turbo (BOT) or Supercharger.

Bolt on Turbo for CamPro S4PH(Turbo Charge)
Due to weak parts inside our CamPro engine, I won't recommend you to bolt on turbo, Speedworkshas tested few units of Campro engines unfortunately they have blown all of them during research forSatria Neo Turbo Kit. If you really want to listen to the blow off sound in your Satria Neo, I first would like you to strenghten your engine part. Try to rebuild your engine with blue printing and change some identified weak parts like crankshaft and piston to forged type. Furthermore, the safe zone for boosting the turbine is only 0.5bar and below, this is because Campro engine is high compression type and it cannot stand if you boost too high.

Parts that you will need for bolt on turbo:
Turbine - suggest TD04, TD05 or Garett AR48, the small frame turbine which your Campro can stand without too much of turbo lag effect.
Intercooler - you can get one from those original turbo charged car like Silvia series or VR4.
Extrator - This will be the banana type and you will need to customize it.
Piping - You will need to custom few other pipes for intercooler, turbine and injector.
Fuel Regulator - Please do not save this item for constant fuel pressure, it is important for your turbo.
Injector - You will need a better one.
Piggybag - Something to control the fuel after you turbo charged it.
Finally - A good workshop which is really expect to turbo charge your Campro engine.

This is an example for bolt on turbo:
 

This is the dyno result:
 

Supercharger for Campro S4PH
There is a famous workshop to supercharge your Campro, they are called Powerzone 
They are many units for superchanger done in Powerzone, and here is one of those:

 

There are the most common forced induction to our Satria Neo Campro engine, and each of them will increase hp to a good figure (40-50hp, depends on the boost), just want to enforce here: you need to strengthen your engine before you go for it, else it will bring you more and more problems and probably you will spend your weekend in workshop. Furthermore there will be a cost vs efficiency here, if you think rebuilding your engine is costing too much for you, I will recommend you go for the final solution - Engine Change.

Cheers!

Satria Neo: Specifications

Here are the facts on the Satria Neo
 The New Proton Satria Neo maybe one of your choice of car to buy. Before you decide to buy it, it is better to read some info and reviews about this hatcback sports car from Proton. Maybe now you are comparing between Satria Neo VS Perodua Myvi VS GEN2 VS SAGA BLM etc. Bear in mind, stick to what you choose, the design, performance or comfort. But clearly this car fits all of the above characteristic. Except that it is actually small inside but look big outside due to the “wide body kit” styling at the wheel arc and bumpers. Many of the user of Satria Neo are complaining about the fuel comsumption because it uses the first generation of campro engine. But then, it also has a very attractive factors which is the sporty design.
The Proton Satria Neo was introduced in June 2006 as a replacement for the first generation Satria. Based on a new platform developed in-house by Proton (with some parts borrowed from the bigger Gen-2 and Waja), the car is currently only available in a three-door hatchback guise. The car was developed at a cost of RM500 million and four years, and was expected by Proton to generate a monthly sales volume of 2,000 to 2,500 units. The car was also intended to target those who are “youthful and sporty”. The Satria Neo was launched by Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
The entry-level Satria Neo, the 1.3 L-line, is powered by a 1.3 litre, inline-4 twin-cam Campro engine, producing 94 bhp (70 kW) at 6000 rpm and 120 N m of torque at 4000 rpm. The 1.6 M-line and top-of-the-range H-line models have 1.6 litre versions of the same engine, with an output of 110 hp (82 kW) at 6000 rpm and 148 N m of torque at 4000 rpm. Both the M-line and H-line models have active system antennae which actively search for signals in areas with poor reception. All cars have the option of either 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic gearboxes supplied by Mitsubishi that are carried over from the previous Satria, with the H-line benefitting from safety features such as twin airbags, ABS with EBD and seatbelt pre-tensioners. All versions of the car come with an integrated Blaupunkt CD player.
With a 0-62mph time of 11.5 seconds and a top speed of 200kph, the 1.6-engined test car is not fast but it is quick. Besides, with traffic conditions and legal limitations in Malaysia, the performance figures are more than adequate.
The Proton Satria Neo comes with just two engine choices; 1.3- and 1.6-litre, petrol units. Only the latter is available with a 4-speed automatic transmission but there is a penalty to making that choice – poorer fuel consumption about 10-14km/l, a slower sprint time and greater CO2 emissions than with the 5-speed manual box.
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If emissions and frugality are important to you, it is better to go for the 1.6 manual. Official figures are posted as; 27.9mpg (urban), 61.4mpg (extra-urban) and 42.8mpg for the combined cycle. In this format, the Satria Neo exhausts 157g/km CO2, which puts it in VED Band D and the insurance is Group 7.
The 1.6 engine produces 112PS (111bhp) at 6,000rpm and 148Nm (109 lb ft) at 4,000rpm The same collaborative engines and transmission can also be found in the GEN-2 but for the Satria, they have been tweaked for better low to medium acceleration and flexibility.
Criticisms of the car include the lack of headroom and legroom for rear passengers (even compared to the previous generation Satria), and lacklustre performance in comparison with the Satria GTi.  The infamous torque dip of Proton’s Campro engine is also present.
Model   1.6 EngineTransmission  MT AT
Valve Mechanism DOHC 16V
Displacement  1597cc
Bore & Stroke 76.0 X 88.0 (mm)
Fuel System  MPI
No. of Cylinders  4
Max. Power  82kW (110hp) @ 6000rpm
Max. Torque  148Nm @ 4000rpm

Performance
Max. Speed  190km/h 185km/h
Acceleration
(0 – 100km/h)  11.5 (sec) 13.7 (sec)
Fuel Consumption
(@ 90km/h) 6.1L/100km 6.9L/100km

DimensionsOverall Length 3905mm
Overall Width  1710mm
Overall Height 1420mm
Wheelbase 2440mm
Front Track  1470mm
Rear Track  1470mm
Front Overhang  825mm
Rear Overhang  640mm
Kerb Weight  1159kg 1184kg
Fuel Tank Capacity 50L

Chassis
Power Steering System  Hydraulic Power Steering
Brake Service Front Ventilated Disc
Rear Solid Disc
Suspension Front MacPherson Strut with Stabiliser Bar
Rear Multilink with Stabiliser Bar
Tyre Size  195/50 R16″
Wheel Size  16″ X 7.0JJ
Power
- A formidable CamPro 16v DOHC engine
- Able to reach a maximum speed in excess of 190km/h*
- 0-100km/h injust 11.5secs*
Performance- Handling by Lotus
- Precise steering response
- MacPherson strut system
- 16″ tyres for 1.6, 15″ for 1.3
- Braking system with ABS and EBD*
Interior
- Integrated radio control system on steering wheel*
- Stylish A/C knob system
- Sporty Tempest Grey interior
- Easy folding rear passenger seats
- Bold and Engagiing textures
Bucket seats
Safety
- High structural integrity
- Double impact bars for greater side impact protection
- Immobilizer system*
- CAPTOR vehicle tracking system*
- Integrated SRS dual airbag*
- Integrated reverse sensors*